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Say it aint so JoePa

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*The picture of Joe Paterno falling down after the State game is not posted anymore. Why?

Well, it was not never authorized to be posted in the first place and thus, there is now no direct link to the picture as BWI has taken it down.

Complete speculation on my part but I’m guessing a pic of JoePa falling is not too flattering for the university or JoePa himself.

Because God knows if this was a picture of Joe celebrating a win and not falling down, this wouldnt be a problem.

Let’s get this out of the way:

Joe Paterno is one of the greatest coaches of all-time.
Joe Paterno graduates his players.
Joe Paterno is the most important person in the history of Penn State University.
Joe Paterno is a legend.

BUT

Joe Paterno is 80 years old.
Joe Paterno does not coach games anymore.
Joe Paterno is selfish.

Yes selfish!

This picture was taken after Penn State’s loss to MSU saturday. A game Penn State had led by 17 points. According to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Joe Paterno had never blown a 17 point lead in his entire career

And you know what, he didnt blow a 17 point lead on Saturday either.

His assistants did.

Joe doesnt even put a headset on anymore and frankly, I wonder if he is even approached when big decisions need to be made during the game. When Penn State faked a field goal on Saturday, Paterno looked just as suprised as the MSU defense.

So then why is Joe around?

a)$$$$

Id venture to say this is the biggest reason. Big alumni donors are comfortable with him at the helm and have probably said as much to the university.

b)Joe’s feelings

He has done so much for the university that the mere mention of forcibly removing him would insult him greatly.

Is that fair to the fans, the alumni, the ticket holders, the athletes, and most of all the assistant coaches?

How many coaches have waited for Joe to retire so they can get their shot?

How many people pay their hard earned money to watch winning football?

A strong argument can be made that PSU isnt putting its best product on the field. Since joining the BigTen in 1993, Penn State has won the conference twice. Twice!

In fact, Paterno only fielded one losing team at Penn State from 1966-1999. But in the last 7 years, he has fielded 4.

Its time for Joe Paterno to look at himself in the mirror and say, “Ive done enough here. I have to move on”

Dont taint your legacy Joe. Dont let this picture be how people remember you.

  • CBlust
    November 19, 2007
    #1

    I love this picture…Poor guy.

  • pg
    November 19, 2007
    #2

    You should add “Cute” to the list of positive things you said about him.

    Add it. “Cute.”

  • Timmy G
    November 19, 2007
    #3

    Wow, very strong/harsh words. Who wrote this, Drew Sharp?

    Fact, notwithstanding their upcoming bowl game, Penn State is 28-9 in their last three seasons…averages out to 9-3 per year. Granted, none of us know how much Paterno has contributed to this, but I would bet a pretty penny that he isn’t getting paid for doing nothing.

    Whether it’s “fair” to the school, athletes, coaches, students, alumni, etc. that he is still there. I take issue with you saying it isn’t fair. 1. Ultimately, it is the school’s choice whether he continues to coach or not. Sure, PSU would take a PR hit if they “force him out”, but it’s still their decision. However, it’s pretty hard to argue against that 28-9 record (yes, I know they played non-conference cupcakes this year). 2. Why wouldn’t it be fair for the coaches that he’s still coaching? It isn’t often that a big-time program promotes from within when replacing their former head coach. 3. The athletes – if you’re recruited to play football at Penn State, you had the ability to play at dozens of other Division I schools. The athletes chose to go to Penn State. 4. Students – do non-football-playing students pick to attend a school because of their football program? 99.9% do not. That .1% is weird or attends that specific school because it wants to work closely with a successful football team. Either way, they made that choice.

    Penn State has won “only two” B10 titles since 1993. That is two more than Michigan State, Indiana and Minnesota; one more than Illinois and Purdue; and the same amount as Iowa. Considering the majority of B10 championships have been won by two teams, this is nothing to shake a stick at. Yes, Penn State went through some rough times from 2000 to 2004 (every non-elite program does), but all in all, they have been pretty successful.

    I’m not arguing that JoePa shouldn’t hang ‘em up, but I guess I can’t really argue that he should.

    Either way, harsh (and quite possibly untrue) allegations.

    Cute…cute??

  • World of Isaac
    November 19, 2007
    #4

    how is it harsh to say that he’s selfish…the guy is 80 years old and doesnt coach but still roams the sidelines…

    why? for what reason…he isnt doing the job that is required of him….he’s not coaching, he is a figurehead….

  • Timmy G
    November 19, 2007
    #5

    Well, for one, I don’t think anyone on his blog knows how much “coaching” he does. Although I may be incorrect, I have to believe he puts in a ton of time preparing each week. Also, the guy recruits like a mother.

    I have heard on more than one occassion from Dantonio that he “lets” his OC and DC call the respective plays. Sure he has the ability to veto them, but I’m sure JoePa also has the ability to say, “hey, we’re going to go for it here…” or “we’re punting here”.

    Again, I may be wrong on all this, but the guy’s team is still successful and I’m willing to bet he does a lot more coaching than you’re led to believe.

  • pg
    November 19, 2007
    #6

    Does he run practice? Does he work on the game plan? There’s a lot to coaching that takes place between Sunday morning and kickoff. I’m not sure how it all goes down, but I know enough to know I don’t know the extent of his involvement.

    Yes. Cute. Look at him sitting there. The only way it could be cuter would be if he had on footy-PJ’s . . . or if it was a pretty girl instead of JoePa.

  • CBlust
    November 19, 2007
    #7

    He is cute…

    I bet his depends soaked up most of the rain water on the field.

  • World of Isaac
    November 19, 2007
    #8

    I wont link to the article but JoePa admittedly does not go on many recruiting trips anymore(his assistants do), worked at home this past offseason instead of coming into his office at the athletic department, and has 3 assistants run the team on game day, 1 for defense and two for offense…

    I also read an article from a guy named Jared Trexler who is authoring a book on Penn State football and said that Paterno doesnt detail game plans but rather

    “However, when it came to burning the midnight oil over game tape and game plans, Paterno stuck his nose in, watched a cliff notes version of an opposition’s tendencies and offered his two cents. He still had complete control of the money, but no longer ran the bank’s day-to-day operations.

    Yes, it is my opinion but I didnt produce it out of thin-air

  • World of Isaac
    November 19, 2007
    #9

    Oops I crapped my pants…one of the best SNL skits

  • joe paterno
    November 19, 2007
    #10

    Have you seen me chase down a referee? I’m faster than you are, Andy.

  • Anonymous
    November 19, 2007
    #11

    Let me ask this to all the JoePa Supporters:

    Do you think JoePa could stand face to face with each player on his team and correctly state his name(s)?

    Ha! The guy is a senile old fart who has to be hindering Penn State at this point.

  • Timmy G
    November 19, 2007
    #12

    Anonymous:
    11-1, 9-4, 8-4, over the last three years.

    How is he hindering them?

  • World of Isaac
    November 19, 2007
    #13

    how is helping them? Isnt that a more important question

  • Brian
    November 20, 2007
    #14

    @world of isaac – of course he worked from home – he was still recovering from a broken leg.

    That said, a lot of stuff is true – he does delegate a lot, but if you watch the games, he is in Mike McQueary’s ear non-stop. Mike is the link to Galen Hall and, I think, the guy they are grooming to take over (State College and PSU guy and by all accounts a badass recruiter).

    And I don’t think you can watch a game and think he doesn’t let Tom Bradley know exactly how he feels on so many issues.

    So yeah, he’s not calling the plays and he’s not in every single decision and maybe he doesn’t pre-game as much as some people think, but who really cares?

    He was criticized so much in those down years and asked to step down and what did he do? He reorganized the staff to get the right people in the right places and get the train back on track.

    I’m a PSU and and totally recognize his shortcomings. But he’s not nearly as much of a liability as people think.

    And one other thing – the $$$$ issue isn’t just donors. JoePa has been (I think) the university’s largest contributors on the academic side.

  • World of Isaac
    November 20, 2007
    #15

    So yeah, he’s not calling the plays and he’s not in every single decision and maybe he doesn’t pre-game as much as some people think, but who really cares?

    You should care as a PSU fan. You should demand that PSU put its best possible coaching staff together to get the best possible results for the football team. If Paterno is delegating most of his responsibilities, then is he really the “Head Coach” or is he just a facilitator.

    If he is a facilitator, I think it effects the program as a whole. 1-2 years you can get away with somebody doing that but players need to see leadership from the top. Is it a wonder that PSU has had legal problems with their players this year? Not to say that it is directly attributed to JoePA but I think its a fair question to ask if these same kind of problems happens with a coach who is more visible to the players.

    As far as the donations is concerned. JoePA stands above all other coaches with regards to academic donations. I read that he has given 4 million dollars of his own money and helped with the fundraiser for the new library(which was why they renamed it)

    He is a legend and he should go out as one. I just happen to think he is hanging on too long.

  • Timmy G
    November 20, 2007
    #16

    For the record, Dantonio lets his OC and DC call the overwhelming majority of the plays.

  • Anonymous
    November 20, 2007
    #17

    If Galen Hall becomes PSU’s next coach you can bet the words “NCAA Investigation” wouldn’t be far behind.

  • World of Isaac
    November 20, 2007
    #18

    why?

  • Eric
    November 20, 2007
    #19

    I’d like to point out that people were football coaches before headsets existed. JoePa isn’t the only Div-1A head coach who doesn’t wear a headset during the game.

  • World of Isaac
    November 20, 2007
    #20

    you’re right eric, joepa is not the only coach who does this

    bobby bowden is the other

    ha

  • max j.
    November 20, 2007
    #21

    Who crapped in your Cheerios this morning, Isaac? What year did you graduate from Pitt?

  • World of Isaac
    November 20, 2007
    #22

    pitt haha

    why is it that anytime somebody has an opinion about JoePa, they are seen as a hater?

  • Anonymous
    November 21, 2007
    #23

    I would just like to say that I have several friends on the Penn State football team and JoePa does in fact still coach. He gets in the faces of players, yells at them, and corrects their mistakes. He does his coaching during practice. I will say, though, that he has probably the worst set of assistant coaches i have ever seen.. JayPa is horrible and is lucky he can even tie his own shoes.. McQueary is a red-headed stepchild who should’ve been beaten a long time ago

  • pg
    November 21, 2007
    #24

    You’re opinion is that he is washed up, has nothing left to offer, and is actually hurting the program he built. You are seen as a “hater” because you are “hating.” As for leadership: JoePa offers institutional leadership I can only hope Dantonio (or whoever replaces him, should that day come) will have, but it will take 10-15 years to establish. Anyone that goes to Penn State knows what they are in for and knows what will be expected of them. Granted, they have their blemishes, but they are neither alone in that, nor the most eggregious (although, I fully expected a HUGE sh*t-storm a couple years ago when they had the huge recruiting class on the heels of their worst seasons). As for the “delegator” versus “head coach” issue: I think it’s a non-issue. People have said he coaches at practice, stays on top of his assistants (they what she said, kind of), and gets in the ears of his play callers. I’m not sure what more you want your head coach to do. Wear a headset? Shoot, I wore a headset on the sidelines, does that make me a better head than JoePa? (I might be – gimme a chance).

  • Timmy G
    November 21, 2007
    #25

    You wore your “bedtime headgear” on the sidelines?

    Hey, it prevented a nasty overbite. I understand.

  • pg
    November 21, 2007
    #26

    True. Otherwise, I would have needed the Irwin surgery.

  • World of Isaac
    November 21, 2007
    #27

    apologies about the picture…Im waiting for BWI to provide me a link

  • Anonymous
    November 21, 2007
    #28

    I agree

  • Che
    November 22, 2007
    #29

    You know what would REALLY help PSU?

    If JoePa started coaching again! I know he’s old, and he probably doesn’t do much anymore due to his age. However, the assistant coaches are WRECKING the team.

    If you want an example of their ineptitude, watch this year’s games against Indiana and Ohio State. Tom Bradley ran a Tampa 2 defense the entire game against Indiana, giving up completion after completion and allowing PSU’s secondary no chance to make big plays. PSU squeaked out a win in that one, so apparently Bradley figured the defensive strategy that had worked so badly against IU would be fine to use against OSU. I’d say 75% of OSU’s completions were to the soft spot between the LBs and the safeties. I could see the defense failing right before my eyes (I was at the game) and it was one of the most frustrating experiences of my life. Bradley said himself that the formation he was using was meant to limit yardage and prevent big plays by the other team. However, all it did was prevent big plays by PSU; when you limit OSU to 7 yards per completion but never break up a pass, you’re going to lose. Combine this with Galen Hall’s trite and antiquated playcalling, and you’ve got yourself a blowout. And who knows what JayPa is doing down there?

    Keep JoePa for whatever reason you’re keeping him, PSU, but PLEASE replace the rest of the staff. 4-loss seasons aren’t acceptable to me, considering the weakness of Michigan and MSU this year.

  • Anonymous
    November 25, 2007
    #30

    Dearest Che,

    What the F’ are you talking about?

    Sincerely,

    Anonymous

    P.S. – While I agree with your comments about Michigan, call MSU weak again and your world wide web privleges will be revoked. Permanently.

    Choose or lose.

    Yours,

    Anonymous

  • Anonymous
    October 27, 2008
    #31

    Yes he runs his practices..
    How do you think he hurt his hip and now has to sit in press box?

    “Joe Paterno is Selfish”

    And the collective 32 million to PSU education and a new swimming facility he doanted over the years?
    Yeah your right he is selfish..

    I love people who dont know what there talking about.

  • Joe Paterno
    October 28, 2008
    #32

    COME TO PENN STATE!

  • the muppet from that commercial
    October 28, 2008
    #33

    WE’RE LINEBACKER U!!!

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