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WTF? 12 year-old German boy is now pretty 16 year-old German girl

This is one of the weirdest things I’ve seen this year. A German 12 year-old named Tim Petras underwent a sex change four years ago, making him now the foxy 16 year-old girl Kim Petras. This is shim below.

A GIRL believed to be the youngest person in the world to have a sex change is set to become a pop star.

German Kim Petras – originally called Tim – changed sex after she started hormone treatment at the age of just TWELVE.

Now 16 years old Kim is ready to storm the charts with her first album after landing a record deal.

Kim, who is now officially registered as a female and has long blonde hair and blue eyes, said: “My music is most important to me at the moment. It’s the way I can best express myself.

“I know that because of my past people will always bring up the subject, I can’t get away from it.

“But I hope that one day I might be better known for my music than for my past.”

Look, I’ve seen a lot of fed up things in my life including but not limited to a man having sex with a dead moose (Dad was always a great hunter) but WHAT THE FUCK. What kind of parent allows their prepubescent child to make that sort of decision? How come this kid can look like this but usual transexuals look like Dennis Rodman with Nerf balls shoved in his chest? Is it more of that German ingenuity I hear about in Volkswagen commercials? Would Hitler approve of this doe-eyed Aryan “girl”? I have so many questions!

Honestly, it’s scary to have sex with “women” knowing that this sort of deceptive little thing is out there. Even scarier than it was before. Did you know girls bleed from an orifice between their legs every four weeks???? Ewwwwwwwwww! Gross!

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  • Grant
    September 18, 2008
    #1

    I’m guessing it’s because they halted male puberty before it happened and started female puberty. So, for example, her breasts are natural breasts grown like all other…female breasts.

  • Andy
    September 20, 2008
    #2

    Dude, you fail. Please, look up some information on gender roles, transgendered people, and generally anything that stops you being such a small-minded prick. Sure, this is weird, but then in all likelihood so are you, I sure as hell am – for a start I’m commenting on your shitty blog. Why? Who knows, the universe holds many mysteries.

  • Chris
    September 20, 2008
    #3

    Aw, what’s the matter Andy? Confused about your sexuality too? Maybe your jealousy over this lil shim’s successes made you regret that you’re still sporting your accursed “male” genitalia?

    Though yes, I am a prick. A blog full of sunshine, rainbows, and me going, “Well, good for that little creature” would be far less interesting, I’d think.

  • Irish Road
    September 30, 2008
    #4

    HAHAHAHA …. zing!

    Completely agree with your analysis though. I think I’m going to be a little more careful with my one night poontang selection after seeing this.

  • Philip Robert
    December 10, 2008
    #5

    Your experience in the world is obviously limited and close minded, and you haven’t got a clue as to the difference between a transvestite and transexual. Are the parents of this child irresponsible for allowing these procedures? I don’t know the answer to that I don’t know the child. It could be possible that they are acting in the best interests of their child. What do you know about it? Who are you to judge their situation? Who are you to judge this child?

  • Gersch
    December 10, 2008
    #6

    Oh, i absolutely would. Right away.

  • Kyo
    December 10, 2008
    #7

    I remember reading about this before s/he went through the hormone treatments.
    His parents allowed him to undergo the treatment because he truly believed that he should’ve been born a girl. The parents even stated that during his entire life up until that point, he acted more like a girl than a boy (ie playing with toys for girls and the like).
    Sadly, I don’t have any sources. Remember, I read this four years ago. If I did have a source, I think that’d be creepy.

  • Cyclonus
    December 11, 2008
    #8

    Man if I didn’t know that used to be a dude I would totally go out with her. Or who knows even go all the way.

  • B-Gad
    December 12, 2008
    #9

    1. She’s a person, not an “it”, and not a “that”.
    2. Gender identity is not something that is simply decided one day on a whim. It’s something you are born with, and you know down to the core of your being. You know intrinsically that you are male, for instance. If someone started calling you “she”, it would feel like it was all a big mistake, because you -know- you’re a dude. Same principle. It’s inborn to know your gender. Sometimes a person’s body doesn’t exactly line up. The resulting dysphoria is debilitating.
    3. Gender Identity Disorder is a known medical issue. Posts like this just show how little people know about it, and how cruel they can be to someone who was born with a birth defect. And yes, that’s what Gender Identity Disorder is: a birth defect.

    But go ahead; make all the excuses you want for being a bigot. It’s the internet; nobody can truly call you on it and make it have any real consequences. Go you.

    As for myself, I’m glad for Kim, in that she has such supportive and loving parents who understand that when it comes to who a person is on such a fundamental, visceral level as their very gender identity, that person will know best.

  • fap fap fap
    December 12, 2008
    #10

    I’d hit it

  • Kristen
    December 13, 2008
    #11

    Sorry Andy you fail. I’m a lesbian who has all sorts of respect for the transgendered community but 12? Nope. You feel like a girl? Wonderful, then after the age of 18 and after you’ve gone through all the shit you need to go through to make your body ready to be an adult then have some surgery. At 12 you can feel like a girl all you want then go through puberty and boom suddenly your not really sure what you are. Check the statistics on people who regretted the surgery. Check out the people who call themselves intersex. I’m sorry but before puberty you don’t know what’s what.

  • Zoe Brain
    December 14, 2008
    #12

    Kirsten – I have checked the stats on people who regretted surgery. <2%
    Amongst those who match this girl’s diagnosis, we don’t have any evidence of any regrets. It’s only in more fraught cases that we must tread a fine line. Basically, by age 12, if the correct diagnostic protocols have been followed, we really can be sure in many cases. In others, it’s best to wait, as in those circumstances, only 20-35% are TS, the rest merely gay (with very few exceptions, <5%).

  • lisi
    December 14, 2008
    #13

    She looks beautiful!

  • Urgh
    December 14, 2008
    #14

    You’re a total douche. I can’t believe this kind of ignorance and pure bigotry is allowed. She’s not a “deceptive little thing”. She’s a human. What makes her any different than other girls? That she was born a male? So? She’s a female now. Probably 10X the female you could ever get.

  • sampsin
    December 14, 2008
    #15

    id deff tap that…

  • SciTeacher
    December 14, 2008
    #16

    So far none of us have enough evidence to conclude anything. We do not know if she is XX or XY. We do not know the status of the SRY gene which is what really determines gender identity. Was she born with male or female internal organs? Many XX females with ovaries and a uterus on the inside are born with a male organ on the outside. The opposite, XY males having female genitalia, is true also. The wrong gender is put on the birth certificate and the ‘mistake’ can last for years or a lifetime, often with devastating consequences from an ignorant society. Read the novel “Middlesex.” Become one of those intellectual elite!

  • Zoe Brain
    December 14, 2008
    #17

    For those interested in the science behind it , see BiGender and the Brain

    Ultra-Short Answer – Female brain in male body – one of many Intersex conditions

    Short Answer – The Human brain is sexually dimorphic, women *tending* to have one set of characteristics, men *tending* to have another – as measured by autopsies and MRI scans. There’s overlap. In the Lymbic Nucleus, which is involved with ovulation, emotional response etc the differences are acute. Most of what we regard as “gendered behaviour” is a social construct, but abilities in communication and a few other areas are not. Children who are strongly gendered either way pick up on emotional response cues rather than dress or cultural traits to determine their sense of being male or female. For those with cross-gendered neurology due to a hormonal glitch in the womb in conjunction with a genetic pre-disposition, they get transsexuality.

    Summary – her mind, her personality, her neuro-anatomy is strongly female, always has been, and would be no matter what her body shape. Having the wrong hard-wired instincts (not just sexual – basic body language, gait etc) for the body produces enormous distress. The only cure is to change her body to match her mind.

    There’s plenty of boys in the same straits, it doesn’t just happen to girls.

    A very few of those boys – those with 5ARD or 17BHDD – get a natural sex change, without medical intervention. Unfortunately so do some girls, they become transsexual when their bodies masculinise.

    Over 99% of all natural sex changes in humans are from female to male, and we know a lot about the syndromes that cause that. The few in the reverse direction are still not well understood.

  • Mike
    December 15, 2008
    #18

    lolwhatafaggot hur hur hur

  • AngryCitizen
    December 15, 2008
    #19

    liek omg i can not blieve u just said that u no how genderist that is?! u can’t call people faggots, specially not on the internets! this girl is very hapy teh way she is now and u r caling her a fagot?! u shuld go 2 hel omg

  • Hazumu Osaragi
    December 15, 2008
    #20

    (Unlike Ms. Brain, I’m too lazy to write a personal post tailored to the needs of each and every comments section. But I’ve come up with the nifty canned posting below. I hope it will be thought provoking to those who are open to the possibilities of nature, and is shudder inducing to those harboring a tendency to revulsion at things that don’t fit their nice, neat categories. Bon appetit )

    Hi;

    May I interject a real life situation. I’d like to hear your guidance on this.

    My mother was given a drug to take to lessen the chance of miscarriage and promote healthy babies — that’s what the doctor told her. The drug is Diethylstilbestrol, or DES. In male fetuses, it feminizes the brains of one in five of us ‘DES sons’.

    I finally came to terms with this, and realized my choice was transition or die. So, I’m now a male-to-female transsexual who’s had ‘the operation.’ I’ve changed all my legal paperwork and although I still have a male body with XY chromosomes, it has been retrofitted to approximate female anatomy, which is good because if I ever end up in an accident, there will be no ’surprise’ for the first responders.

    I ‘pass’ very well, thank you. Only rarely do strangers figure out I was not born this way. Most people have to be told, by me, or, more often, by someone else who just has to ‘drop the bomb.’

    All my paperwork has been changed. Legally, I’m female. But I have to find an OB/GYN who can check my prostate during my yearly pelvic exam (yearly mammograms don’t need that level of disclosure.)

    So my question to you is — knowing what you know now about me, and assuming for the moment you get absolute power to label me and make determinations on where I can and can’t go —

    -Do I marry a man? Or do I marry a woman?

    -Which restroom and changing facility do you feel I, a male-to-female transsexual, should use when in public spaces?

    -Am I immoral?

    -Am I a paedophile?

    -Am I tearing down western society in support of a deviant agenda?

    -Am I selfish?

    I eagerly await your responses;

    Hazumu Osaragi

  • Mike
    December 15, 2008
    #21

    I abhor your taste in Yuri manga, but:

    Depends on sexual preference, marry who you like as long as they’re fine with your situation.

    Use a women’s. You’re legally registered as a woman, you have the bits and pieces, and they’re generally cleaner than mens.

    Morals are in perspective.

    I don’t know, do you like children?

    If you’re having lots and lots of sex because you simply wanted the female’s role in bed and spreading disease, yeah. If not, no.

    Again, if you just wanted the female’s role in bed, yeah. If it was just to have the physical match the mental, no, not really.

  • Natalie
    December 15, 2008
    #22

    I think she is beautiful.

  • Gwydion
    December 21, 2008
    #23

    Well…I *had* been enjoying this blog, until this post. I’m FtM trans, the opposite of the girl in this post, and reading the comments made my stomach turn. The Transgender Day of Remembrance wasn’t all that long ago – commemorating all of the transfolk who were murdered because someone decided they were a ‘deceptive little thing’ and curb-stomped them because they are afraid of catching teh gay, or something. Many of them are gang-raped beforehand, or beaten to death by the authorities that are supposed to protect them. Because transgender people don’t conform to the precious gender binary? Fuck that.

    I really hope this girl goes on to find an understanding partner, and that she stays safe. Germany is one of the better places to be TG :)

  • Megan
    February 9, 2009
    #24

    Wow, she is HOT!

  • Trev
    March 13, 2009
    #25

    Gwyidion GO to HELL

    Obviously our anscestors would be horified at what as happened to society.
    For three hundred years not one person even dreamed of changing sexes or even dating same sexes.
    It was not our choice

    Now one sick fucking Lunitic desides to rebel against society and we have a palace of guys that are girls and girls that are guys as well as guys who fuck guys up the ass and girls that use toys to please other girls.

    That is because you freaks couldn’t accept the complexities of your own sex.
    I feel no pity on you. didn’t know how to please the opposite sex so instead of learning how you decide its easier to fuck ass.

    You things are mental.

    Why couldn’t you just accept that life doesn’t always go your way.

    Now us ‘well’ brought up people have to ask our dates if they were men before.

    Fuck all you sick people.

    AND YES YOU ARE GOING TO HELL.
    I would pay to see that.

  • TG
    March 13, 2009
    #26

    In this post: The Author + some people on the comments section feeling uneasy about getting turned on by a modified boy.

    Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t this transgender type stuff kinda sorta remove all possible problems a man might associate with the monthly discharge of blood from the uterus of nonpregnant women from puberty to menopause. Just a thought here – think of the implications! If these operations bring a peace of mind to these people, fine by me. I don’t see why making a woman’s breasts completely appalling by filling them with plastic should be more acceptable by any measure than this type of operation.

  • john
    April 20, 2009
    #27

    well I think she has all the right in the worl to feel and be who she wants. All i can say to some of the comments left here by some pea brains is that at least at 16 she has done much more than any of you has ever acheived and has had the guts to do it at such a difficult age where she must have had some real bad times like been bullied at school at that just for who she is. On top of that she is a model and starting a music career which i wish her all the best. and for you “dudes” as a man that i am the answer is YES i would date her without a problem she is a woman and a human bieng!!!!

  • scooter
    May 1, 2009
    #28

    Seems kinda suspicious to me, and makes me question her parents judgement…..but, I’m tired of being different in a world full of conformist lemmings.
    More power to her!

  • Allan
    May 21, 2009
    #29

    “Did you know girls bleed from an orifice between their legs every four weeks???? Ewwwwwwwwww! Gross!”

    GO FUCK YOUR SELF< YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT…
    THANK TO THAT BLEEDING, YOU WERE BORN. YOU FUCKTARD.

  • Mike
    June 13, 2009
    #30

    holy shit! The comments here are SO FIESTY! Look guys (and girls), theres no giving or taking here! You can trash the other opinions all you want but they arent gonna change their minds! Let them decide that on their own if they so please! I personally don’t agree with changing sexes, i believe god put us on the earth EXACTLY the way he meant to, and that we should not have such a liberty to completly change who we are. I know, however, lots of people wont agree with me. And im okay with that. Everyones entitled to their decision (especially on sensitive topics of such) but i dont think the way to correct and/or discuss them is by putting anyone down. I’d just like to recap, that i am in fact against this, but so what? some people obviously aren’t! and so what? Freedom of choice until it becomes personal, thats what i say!

  • nerf.
    June 15, 2009
    #31

    Author.

    You are a wanker. Stop trying to hide your own homosexual tendencies from behind this wall of “ewwww she’s a boy!”.
    She’s hotter than anything you could ever get, and at least she doesn’t “bleed from an orifice between her legs”.

    What do you care about her past? It has nothing to do with who she is now. She’d be more deceptive by trying to live life as a male, and fooling every woman who ‘he’ wanted to be with.

    I don’t doubt that you have a severe hatred for women and anyone who doesn’t conform to your rigid standards of ‘normality’. You will end up angry and alone, preferably being gangraped every other weekend.

    Go fuck yourself.

  • Chris
    June 15, 2009
    #32

    Nerf. – I’m in a long-term relationship with a beautiful woman who’s more intelligent and more successful than you could ever dream of. I fail to see how you could possibly take something clearly stated as a joke on a Web site with “hilarity” in the name as a personal assault.

    Here’s the problem with people like you, you have no sense of humor and you have a complete inability to see beyond yourself. Just because you hate yourself doesn’t mean that children should be allowed to make decisions like this. Do you know how many ‘awkward phases’ teens go through? How could a CHILD possibly be prepared to make this decision?

    Regardless of what you personally are, Nerf., I take solace in the fact that you’ll die alone with your confused little genitals.

    Sincerely yours,
    Author

  • nerf.
    June 15, 2009
    #33

    Chris.

    I’m glad you have a girlfriend. Good on you. But what makes you think you have the right to judge other people and their lives? What that German girl has done doesn’t impact you at all, except makes you uncomfortable that you MIGHT one day fuck a ‘man’ unknowingly. Sounds like a fair bit of homophobia to me.

    And for something titled ‘hilarity’, you’re not very funny. I can take funny jokes that are un-PC, but there comes a point when you’re not being funny anymore, just showcasing your imbecilic view to the world.

    Also, I LOVE my genitals, thanks for asking.
    So does MY partner.

  • Chris
    June 15, 2009
    #34

    The point is that we all make assumptions…you assume that because I write vitriolic humor (and make no mistake, look up any traffic measuring-Web site and you’ll see hundreds of thousands of people come here each month for my “not very funny”-ness) for a large audience, that I’m somehow unhappy with my life.

    There’s a difference between genuine hatred of something and confusion played up for comedic effect. Clearly I wouldn’t be having sex with a transsexual. Yet, you come here and expect to somehow change things. I’m, generally speaking, in favor of whatever the fuck people want to do that doesn’t affect me including marriage, gender reassignment, whatever. I do have a problem with a child undergoing the process, but that’s neither here nor there based upon your arguments. The actual gender reassignment, who cares? You’re right, it doesn’t affect me at all and if it makes you happy, knock yourself out.

    My question is why do you come here, whether you find it entertaining or not, and whine about this? Why not go somewhere in which there are people legitimately hating people who are homosexual or transgender and attempt to make your case there? Because you’re a coward. You think that it’s safe to attack someone making a joke who, quite frankly, couldn’t care less about what you do. You’re not making a good point, you’re not proving anything, and you’re clearly just venting about something for no reason.

  • gigs
    June 15, 2009
    #35

    I don’t know if you were paying attention to some of the comments to your blog, but a decision like that isn’t some ‘awkward phase’, it’s something they’re born with.

    And the fact that you consider this blog and its contents funny doesn’t excuse of such ignorance. It just shows you up for the Dumb Fuck you are when compared to intelligent bloggers.

  • Chris
    June 15, 2009
    #36

    Gigs, are you just going onto random posts which jokingly insult a minority group in the hopes of venting? Just don’t read the site. I’m far more brilliant than you can ever aspire to and, if it doesn’t work for you, then you can spend your time elsewhere. Stop wasting my time and yours.

  • nerf.
    June 15, 2009
    #37

    I do it because at least haters own up to being haters. By distributing ‘humour’ that hates on people who are already dealing with their fair share of life’s difficulties, you are propagating the hate amongst people who would otherwise be reasonable individuals. It’s a sneaky and covert way of disseminating prejudice.

    Oh well, I’m leaving your blog now. Clearly you refuse to consider what many have to say about the vitriol spouted here, and you know what they say about fighting on the internet.

  • Jake
    July 18, 2009
    #38

    Yuck, but as long as they don’t go around trying to pretend that they are a girl and have sex with men its none of my business. I expect them to be honest when flirting with guys and telling them “by the way I used to be a boy”

    What am I kidding. They aren’t going they admit to that. They are going to lie. They should get some sort of tattoo so poor males don’t fall prey to boys with surgically and chemically altered penises.

  • Souldog
    July 19, 2009
    #39

    Hmmm… I have a problem with “rigorous hormone treatment” at the tender age of 12. Isn’t there any type of moral dilemma these Doctors had to assess prior to administering treatment?

    I firmly believe in the ability to choose, but I also feel that in the aggressive hormone treatment, the moral codes of the Doctors were cast aside in light of being able to be a part of something groundbreaking: Such as changing a 12 year old from a man to a woman.

    The article says the boy felt so strongly that he was born as the wrong gender, that the Doctors stated they had no choice but to induce treatment right away. I don’t think “rigorous hormone treatment” was the ethical choice on a confused 12 year old, and perhaps psychological treatment would have been better until they are of age to then decide, but then it’s not seen as “progressive” and liable to get you labeled as “intolerant.” Guess that’s how our society works these days. Disagree with the majority of social mindset, and be labeled as intolerant. I guess that’s what happened in WWII Germany.

    I truly believe that if a 12 year old approached a Doctor and told him that he strongly feels he is physically meant to become Mr. Olympia (International Body Building Title) by the age of 16 and desired “rigorous hormonal treatment,” society would frown upon it, and the Doctors would most likely be brought in for unethical treatment of a child. Since labels like transgender, transvestite, and “coming out” are considered progressive and popular these days, I suppose society is acceptable of such horrid chemical treatment of an innocent 12 year old boy.

    Say what you want about the Author, but most of his posts are meant to be offensive and involve jokes of bestiality, sodomy, child abuse, child molestation, rape, and oral copulation. Knowing this as a reader, what prompts you to take offense to this particular post? You knew what you were getting into when you were reading his other posts, so why raise a riot now? I don’t get it. Sodomy, rape, bestiality: All Funny. One Joke about Trangenders: All of a sudden everyone comes out of the woodwork to call The Author a close-minded dumb fuck. I don’t get people.

    Chris, you are hilarious sir, and I read you daily to make my day brighter. Thank you for all you do!!!

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